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VRSICK
August 22nd 2002, 12:54
besides raby, i've already checked out his shop, but I want to shop around, where else can I get a type 4 long block, say 2400 or 2600 cc

BTW, how much power would a 2400cc engine give?? est..

Rouser
August 23rd 2002, 16:50
I guess the most important questions are:

How fast do you want to go? Stoplight drags? Highway flyer?
How many ponies do you want? 120HP? 200HP?
How long do you want it to last? 10K? 100K?
And finally, how much do you want to pay? $3K? $7+K?

The suggested/recommended engine builders narrow down quite a bit as the above requirements become more specific. HP costs $$$, and so does longevity; lots of either isn't cheap. And don't be misled by hollow promises; find out who really backs up their "talk" with a descent "walk."

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VRSICK
August 23rd 2002, 16:55
Probably want around 140 HP

want to do 13s easy...
its for a show car/street car
I also need a tranny for that....
budget is maybe say 5-7k

Alex
August 23rd 2002, 17:24
Is the 5-7k including the tranny?

Alex

lightning bug
August 23rd 2002, 18:53
You stole my question Alex. Plan to spend more for a combo. Just stating the facts.

Rouser
August 23rd 2002, 21:20
Let's see:

2270cc "C" Engine (http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/type4/2270/c.html) - $5.5K (approx)
"B" Transaxle (http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/transaxles/index.html) - $950 (approx)

If you're flexible on your requirements, this combo should do 13's and 140HP all day long, and it's all PROVEN. Buy in one place, dyno-tuning included, set up just the way you want it, no experimentation (read: blown/hosed parts) required. Kits are available if you wanna "Build It Yourself."

Oh, sure, you can continue window shopping like everyone says to do in the HOPE of "saving" a few bucks here and there, but it's not their money you'll be spending when the pennysaver part(s) break. And when you compare specs, look for all the so-called "rebuilt" (verses "new") parts; an indication of where they cut corners for that "great" price.

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Oliver Knuf
August 24th 2002, 05:33
Just build a 78mm crank together wit 94mm Mahle B pistons(2165cc's), it's cheaper and as reliable as the 96mm, besides I think (and tested for years), that the 94mm through the offset wrist-pins will last longer! The HP rate will top your est.140HP and you will have a very reliable engine. Such a long block, with stainless steel 2-tip muffler and J-tubes, Porsche style fan system with Carrera fan and 41mm/34mm heads, Web Cam & lifters and a few other goodies will cost you the same, around 5.5k$, but you have more necessary parts! A gearbox is as good as it's builder, I would take a more original gearbox, build to tight factory specs and a bit longer, than needed, but that depends on the driver's opinion. Maybe you want more 1/4 miling, thaen there's another gearbox better. I don't think, that a simple gearbox, maybe with 4,12 and 0,89 4th will cost you more than 500$.

Oliver Knuf
August 24th 2002, 05:45
Besides, if you take a look on the price, it's a common price for a common engine, where we have to give a year guarantee in Germany, no window shopping here, simple and reliable parts, that last for the same k-miles, any other would offer you, but I can guarantee for high mph, too... :silly:



A Type 4 is no secret, it's just the better aircooled engine!