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coolrydes March 25th 2011 14:22

Here's our all new Super Beetle kit ready for shipment. This one is going to France. This new kits allows for not only type 1302 and 1303 s to use our kit but is also very custom chassis friendly. Take a look at www.thesamba.com under general parts in the classifieds for futher info on these kits.
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volkdent March 25th 2011 20:42

Looking good!!! Do you guys use standard or metric hardware?

Jason

evilC March 28th 2011 07:27

I see the bottom bracket of the coilover is very low. How does it look with the wheel/brake combination assembled on it? how much ground clearance is there with a standard 640mm o/a dia wheel and tyre on?

coolrydes March 28th 2011 15:04

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Originally Posted by volkdent (Post 80159)
Looking good!!! Do you guys use standard or metric hardware?

Jason

Thank you for the kind words.

All of the gold hardware is 1/2 standard because getting metric in our area from the local bolts houses is super hard :angry:. I would prefer to use all metric. We do you metric on the sway bar and rack mounts. :)

coolrydes March 28th 2011 15:13

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Originally Posted by evilC (Post 80178)
I see the bottom bracket of the coilover is very low. How does it look with the wheel/brake combination assembled on it? how much ground clearance is there with a standard 640mm o/a dia wheel and tyre on?

I thought the same thing the first time I looked at it, then the engineer pointed out the fact that it is in line with the spindle. This means that anything that goes under the wheel will lift the suspension the same amount.

Here is a picture of the Speedwell oval with 17 inch wheels and a 195/40 tyre.

evilC March 29th 2011 06:59

You certainly can't see the bracket in the photo that means that it is above that car's lowest point. The bottom bracket does move up and down with the wheel so the clearance with the road remains reasonably constant but I couldn't work out what that dimension was and it looks as though it will be inboard of the wheel inner edge.

Clive

volkdent March 29th 2011 20:53

What is the lb/in rate you guys like to use for these?

Jason

coolrydes March 30th 2011 16:26

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Originally Posted by evilC (Post 80214)
You certainly can't see the bracket in the photo that means that it is above that car's lowest point. The bottom bracket does move up and down with the wheel so the clearance with the road remains reasonably constant but I couldn't work out what that dimension was and it looks as though it will be inboard of the wheel inner edge.

Clive

Here is a better picture with 17 inch wheels

coolrydes March 30th 2011 16:27

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Originally Posted by volkdent (Post 80227)
What is the lb/in rate you guys like to use for these?

Jason

I do not understand what you are asking here?
"What is the lb/in rate you guys like to use for these?"

Steve C March 30th 2011 18:52

Hi

I'll put one of these units in list of things I need when rich.

Do you have any photos of how it attaches the super bug frame head? Just curious.

Steve

PS Beautiful work

volkdent March 30th 2011 20:53

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Originally Posted by coolrydes (Post 80238)
I do not understand what you are asking here?
"What is the lb/in rate you guys like to use for these?"

When you purchase aftermarket springs that are for no specific application you generally buy based on:

1) Overall diameter
2) Length
3) Spring rate

In North America as far as I've ever seen the spring rate is measured in pounds per inch (lb/in), that is a one inch depression of the spring will be able to resist a specific weight. So, a 180lb/in spring will be able to support 180lbs when depressed one inch, 360lbs for 2 inches of compression, etc. Some springs are wound in such a way that they are progressive, so the more they are compressed the more they actually resist being compressed, but those don't seem to be as commonly used as the one to one lb/in measurement.

Sway bars don't affect the spring rate if both sides are compressed together, but if one is compressed more than the other, the additional spring rate of the torsion bar can be added to that of the actual spring.

Jason

coolrydes March 31st 2011 17:23

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Originally Posted by volkdent (Post 80240)
When you purchase aftermarket springs that are for no specific application you generally buy based on:

1) Overall diameter
2) Length
3) Spring rate

In North America as far as I've ever seen the spring rate is measured in pounds per inch (lb/in), that is a one inch depression of the spring will be able to resist a specific weight. So, a 180lb/in spring will be able to support 180lbs when depressed one inch, 360lbs for 2 inches of compression, etc. Some springs are wound in such a way that they are progressive, so the more they are compressed the more they actually resist being compressed, but those don't seem to be as commonly used as the one to one lb/in measurement.

Sway bars don't affect the spring rate if both sides are compressed together, but if one is compressed more than the other, the additional spring rate of the torsion bar can be added to that of the actual spring.

Jason

Ok now I understand what you were asking. Our standard spring rate is 250lbs. However we can go higher or lower as needed for different car weights and applications. We can also change shock valving to suit a certain use.

evilC April 5th 2011 05:07

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Originally Posted by coolrydes (Post 80237)
Here is a better picture with 17 inch wheels

Thanks for the photo, it shows what I feared in that the bottom coilover mount would be vulnerable to road and kerb damage over here.

From the overall layout it occurred to me that it has the potential for inboard coilover mounts operated by rockers?

Clive

coolrydes April 6th 2011 11:03

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Originally Posted by evilC (Post 80275)
Thanks for the photo, it shows what I feared in that the bottom coilover mount would be vulnerable to road and kerb damage over here.

From the overall layout it occurred to me that it has the potential for inboard coilover mounts operated by rockers?

Clive

Yes,
you could rocker them, however the stock tank may have to be lifted enough for the shocks to clear.

flat June 28th 2011 12:25

I just did a brake setup for a Mendeola a-arm system. BoxsterS/993:

http://vdubengineering.com/wp-conten.../mendeola2.jpg

http://vdubengineering.com/wp-conten...6/mendeola.jpg

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