Wishbone suspension bolt on kit

[Shadowbug]

decided that it didn't make sence to build an entirely new chassis when the one I had was more than fine.

I've decided that I'm going to scratch build an entire car (what I've been thinking of doing for quite a while)

Using VW/Audi components

However I'm going to follow the example of one builder out there and build my front suspension so it cal be unbolted and pulled off in a single piece. Should I be happy with the setup I'll build a second one for the beetle. (was planning on staying within beetle dimentions anyway)

[Ephry73]

Just came upon this thread. What is the status of the conversion? Would be very interesting to see how the fit would be on a Ghia. Any news? will be even more interesting if one could use aftermarket spindles as well.




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[volkdent]

Originally Posted by Ephry73

Just came upon this thread. What is the status of the conversion? Would be very interesting to see how the fit would be on a Ghia. Any news? will be even more interesting if one could use aftermarket spindles as well.
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Because of the shifter shaft tunnel, it is necessary to have a spindle with steering arms that are high. The stock spindles have that, and with all the modifications in brakes you read about in these forums, its really not that bad an option to stick with.

As far as my progress is concerned, its slow as usual, but still making progress. Bob is working on calculations right now, though the measurments I feed him are suspect! Currently the setup I'm building uses stock KG spindles with Porsche drilled rotors, Ford Granada tie rod ends as the bottom ball joint, Volvo P1800 lower balljoints in the upper position, non-powered Golf II steering rack, Porsche 993 Cup II wheels. I've just purchased a wrecked Golf II that still runs for $100 for the parts that I'll use for the rear end. (See Audi S3 midmounted thread started by Bobtail)

Jason

[Ephry73]

very cool Jason! sure would love to see the pictures of the progress.



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[miller]

Have you gotten the a arms leangths settled yet? Are you gonna set it up with long rear arms (as long as possible) that are parellel to the ground. And upper arms that control camber changes? Gonna design in any ackerman steering? Any design updates or ideas would bo good to hear. Im kinda in the process of figuring out a double a-arm suspension so its nice to talk about design and whatnot with somebody that has more experience in the issue.

[volkdent]

It's funny, I'm lying in bed thinking about emailing Bob in australia regarding the width of the track. I get online, and there's an email for me, telling me to check out the wishbone thread, and the question is arm length! I guess my ears were burning. So, the answer is no. There are a million variables that I'm kicking around in my mind. And a couple of projects, but it is getting close I'd say. Within the next month. Check in soon.

Jason

[Shadowbug]

this is my debate.
the only reason for going with unequal length arms is for camber compensation,
if one was more interested a more fexible suspension set up than the paralel trailing arm suspension of the beetle, equal length A arms could be the ticket, and geometry would be much easier to figure out.

However thre are resources out there for scratch built suspensions like this. I've been frequenting the "Locost" forums for the last little while, and most of the information and design of these suspensions revolves around track cars and such. better handling means a lower time.

If I were to follow this logic through, I might as well srap my beetle and build a one off race car, because it'd be lighter, therefor better handling. Not really what I want to do, I'd rather have a beetle.

so here's the plan, I'll grab a pan from a buddy of mine (has half a dozen of them) and begin mocking up a front suspension, making use of a simple design and modern components. maybe I'll take a little more time to make it pretty, but strength first.


let you all know when I have some pictures to show you.