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			Maybe if there is enough interest we could get another group buy started for a kafer cup brace. I got a sweet deal on mine.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
		
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			BTW, I have a rear swaybar that I was thinking about selling. If you need one let me know.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
		
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			Yeah, perhaps there is some strong intrest in another group buy? I know im intersted if i can get one for a good price. BTW how much did you fork over for yours durring that last group buy? 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Ha.. funny you mention a sway bar, becuase as of 15 minutes ago i just instaled a 944 unit :P Thanks for the offer though. Later Jonathan  | 
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			I don't have a kafer brace, but I have autocrossed with and without a rear traction bar.  I think you need something...i have to be very careful when I launch from start because I have huge sticky tires (225/50/15 Kumho autocross tires) and if I launch too hard, i get serious wheel hop...so I usually try and clutch launch it spinning the clutch instead of the tires. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Eventually I plan on getting a kafer brace, but for now, I just baby it a little off the start. For the most part, a drag race style launch doesn't do you much good in autocross. Watch the really competitive racers and most of them take a slow steady launch. Nick Last edited by Aurumen; April 19th 2004 at 12:18.  | 
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 Me too. I found a 20mm swaybar with shackles and hardware for $30 shipped. I just had to order some swaybar clamps and make the bushing perches on the torsion tube.  
		
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			I might be interested if it's cheap enough.  What was the ballpark for the group buy last time?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I made mine and it was easy. Yes for autocross and roadrace it does make a difference. Less understeer, and stiffer rear suspension. also now no wheel hop.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			could you give us some details on what materials to use, dimentions and perhaps where you got your supplies at in order to make our own. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Thanks, Jonathan 
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