The Perfect Suspension rear end..

[Pillow]

>And there is one thing he assumed.. and that is that the SB has the same weight dist (or similer) as the 911<

You are correct. I did assume that, but both have a huge rear weight bias so they have similar needs the way I see it.

In my opinion the stock rear torsion bars in a Beetle are pathetically soft. My suggestion for anyone is to at least get the 944 units.

That being said it does change the handling attributes of the car. But I do not mind a rear that pushes. YMMV

Good luck,

[Mysticle31]

I find it interesting how the 911 even up until modern times still had the rear engine rear wheel drive. How does this car handle (keep up) with all it's 50/50 compediters?

What are the bolt on options for the rear suspension? Just 944/928? That is still, I think, one of the best handling cars ever. Does it's suspension help the SB. The SB does not have near it's weight dist.

[NO_H2O]

911(996) is still rear engine/rear drive and it is the car of choice in the ALMS GT class, etc.

[Supa Ninja]

From what I was told, Porsche went through a rigourous weight relocation program to try and shift as much of it's movable weight(ie, battery, spare tire...) as far forward as possible to move the cog forward. I drive a 914 as well and with it's 47/53 bias it is very predictable in the corners.

Nick

[Mysticle31]

That explains some of the weight jumps I see thoughout time. But what makes this car so good? It must be that it's the only car that had any real power? I could move everything I could foward in a SB and never reach that weight. (I don't know how much the front and rear weighs without a rear engine..but the engine is some odd 220lbs) I can move the batt up there, put in 50 lbs worth of sterio stuff..and still not have it.. but I've always read it's critical for handling..

[NO_H2O]

Transfer the batery to the front, ditch the back seat and give it a try. If you are going to tweek a rear engine car, narrow your research down to racing resorces for Porsches and early VW's. All that water pumpin' front engine stuff will get you all messed up, poison your mind and rott your teeth.

[Mysticle31]

True, but some of the best handling cars (except 911 it seems, and I've had people tell me a 944 will outhandle a 911) are AWD and/or 50/50 weight dist? What does it all mean? How do you make these cars handle?

(I'm a dunce..)

By worlds best handling cars, I mean Ferarri F50, BMW M3, Porsche 944, WRX, Anything Ford Cosworth..etc. (All in their own right, some need a little work to get there, but are excelent platforms) And I know 911 is in there somewhere too.