Fat 911 T4 Cooling .. datalogger results

[Massive Type IV]

Cool! So what do you have for a scale to transfer these to degrees??

About 60 degrees is the norm for what we saw with the fan you have, shroud you have as well as the drive ratio, but our engine was larger displacement- 2270

Great work! when you get that rig all figured out I'll buy one from you!

[Sandeep]

The chart scale is logorithmic on the y-axis ... so between 1 and 10, the divisions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, and 10, between 10 and 100, the divisions are 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 and then 100, from 100 to 1000, the pattern is the same.

When I get the RPM's hooked up, there will be another section, 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000 etc between 1000 and 10,000.

The temps are in F, AAT and FIT in C.

The logger stores data in hexidecimal format (memory savings) and the calcs tab in the spreadsheet makes the conversions through formulas derived from the circuit I designed. I calibrated the system with a pot of boiling water and I'm only off 1.5 F at 212 F (100 C) when the pot is boiling.

I'm off to do another run now !

Sandeep

[Massive Type IV]

cool....

But you do know that water only bois at 212 when you are at sealevel... You need to do a bit of an equation to figure out your elevation and the differences from sea level..

[Sandeep]

You are right ... Todays pressure is 101.87 KPa and Toronto is at 270m above sea level ... that works out to 210.10 F. Another boiling water test shows the temp on each of the thermocouples at 211.6 F so within about 1.5F. :agree:

I also rerouted my coil spark plug wire and it really helped eliminate most of the noise. 2nd run here.

I won't put up anymore runs until I get the RPM's and RWS sensors hooked up, so I can show the temps at what RPM and RWS.

Sandeep

[Wally]

Originally Posted by Sandeep

2nd run here.

Sandeep

Wow, only maximum 10 degrees Fahrenheit difference and max head temp so far only about 310F ! I am impressed!
To be honest, after all the horror story's of the 911 fan set-ups, I would have expected much higher head temp differences...

Thanks for your effort!

Regards,
Walter

[Massive Type IV]

Also you can note that those temps were above 300 degrees on a bone stock engine (2.0) and I believe that he has stock gearing which is decreasing load on the engine and keeping the cylinders from working as hard.

With a DTM most engines sustain a reading of 275 degrees with a 10 degree variance on all 4 cylinders. Zen's engine won't get any hotter than 275 from the drive that I took in the car up a huge hill.

BTW-The system he is testing gave us the temp readings with the hottest overall temps, Sandeeps test is backing up exactly what I saw when that system was in my car last October for testing..

Sandeep, what drive ratio are you using to test this?

[Wally]

Yeah, I also believe a stock (= low) compression ratio will definately help to keep head temps down.
Somehow, I think that the high fan set-up of the FAT shroud might help to get the cooling air easier to the 2 and 4 cylinder; the air doesn't need to make a sharp turn, like with the deeper sitting fan assembly's.
I'am curieus what your take is on this Jake?

Thanks,
Walter

BTW, 275 F up a hill in a high CR 2270 is amazingly low!
BTW II, my stock 1,8 with stock cooling runs 325 F on the right bank and 375 F on the left bank all year...

[boygenius]

doesn't the mineral content of water also slightly affect the boiling point. I thought only "pure" water boiled at 212 degrees F at sea level.

[Wally]

Originally Posted by boygenius

doesn't the mineral content of water also slightly affect the boiling point. I thought only "pure" water boiled at 212 degrees F at sea level.

You ARE kidding me, right?