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				R & P Steering
			 
			
			
			Hello everyone- I am under the understanding that to put r&p in a 1303(74) that you need a steering out of a very late bug or a VW Passant or Audi 80 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Is that correct? if so I was looking in the local bone yard today and saw a Audi Fox unit that looks like the Passant- does anyone know if they are the same? If someone has a picture of the Bug VW unit I would love to see a couple of views if possible anyone who has any knowledge for a newbie like me and would share some wisdom with me, I would be greatfull thanks for all the time everybody gives Nohair  
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				Steering rack
			 
			
			
			I was going to convert mt early 03S to steering rack but I sold it and bought a late model instead that has a steering rack. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	If you want to convert i presume the late model would be easier to convert but there is still a lot of fabrication to do by changing and its really a custom job i wouldnt see many garages takin it on. you need the whole assembly for the late 03; Sttering rack, tie rods, stub axles if yours is 3 bolt etc. There is the arguement that its not much different driving an 03 with a box and an 03 with a rack. I would definitely go for the rack model after having both but as i did I'd go out and buy a rack model again. there are a couple of post already on the forum just use the search and you'll get some pics. if you want i can take some of mine as i took the spare wheel tray out for the rad you get a better view of the framehead. cheers Cormac  | 
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				Steering r & p
			 
			
			
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	I have a 73 super and was curious when they started installing r&p. I was also curious if anyone has ever mounted those rack and pinion units made for rails and buggies on a streeted standard Beetle.  | 
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			I was steered away from the buggy/sand rail r&p because I was told they weren't sturdy enough for street applications.  There are race applications with a "quick steer" available that can be adapted.  I tossed my info out when I decided my '71 wasn't going to go such a process, and figured if I own a '75 some day, I will do a more confined search then.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				R&P
			 
			
			
			IT WAS IN 75 ANYWAY FOR DEFINITE. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	i'll check my chassis number and see i think it starts 135  | 
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			Yes, R&P was in for '75 already.  I only meant I would only consider a racing rack for me for a car already equipped with a rack.  I personally ruled out a conversion to a rack for my '71 so I no longer retained the info to help Nohair with his '74 which also would need to be converted. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	One reason I ruled it out was because of the expense of the conversion and the expense of the racing rack. To me (and it is my opinion only), I didn't want to just convert to a '75-'79 r&p because it actually has a worse turning radius than the pre-'75 steering box models. Plus, the steering box in mine is in quite good shape. I do like r&p steering, so I don't want to offer that misgiving. Some day I would like to own a '75 as a platform. I really wish I could remember the sources, though. I just collected so much stuff over the years, I had to do a purge. Sorry.  | 
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				R&P
			 
			
			
			Hello- I am still trying to find out if the "Fox" rack is the same as the VW units- I know on my 74' that I have some unused bolt(threaded) holes where the rack should bolt in- I just wanted to know if the units were interchangeabel from model to model  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I am going to the "WORK" of the change because I have a rust free and very good chassis and already have the 944 brake change installed, so while I have the body off and am doing the changes I know this has to be the best time to do the rack change!!- anyone who has any experience that would like to share would be appreaciated thanks to everyone nohair  
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				Help?
			 
			
			
			I am still trying to find out if the "Fox" steering unit is the same as the VW/Audi and would fit the SB(74') that I have - please if anyone knows I think it would help in the supply of R&P parts that would be available to the people that want to change over 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	thanks for all the time and knowledge that everyone gives Nohair  | 
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				R & P Steering
			 
			
			
			If it is a R&P like this one in the pict. it will no fit a SB, it has to be a R&P from a early Audi80/passat and you have modify it to fit. 
		
		
		
			look in this tread It's a standard 1303 75' rack with good pict. http://www.germanlook.com/Forums/sho...highlight=rack here is all that you need no more or less on german ebay: http://cgi.ebay.de/Kaefer-1303-Cabri...QQcmdZViewItem Last edited by hammerbus; February 15th 2006 at 16:12.  | 
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