Tell us your ideas for speed

[elev8_dude]

We can do Type 1 and Type 4 to start.

Type 1's 1915, 2007 etc. Again something in the range of affordability and drivability with maximum power and components. Also Type 4's.

We need to pick a Type and size and start. Would love to see where we end up. Also see if any body has the Dough to build the virtual engine.

Just thinking out loud.

P.S. It would be a bias choice for me to start with a Type 1 1915cc

[speedy]

http://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=333873

well if you want to spend serious money and only go in a straight line read the thread above
cheers jon

[beetle1303]

Hello guys,
Its been a while since my last post...
I will update my other post...

About making a virtual engine, ive started already about 1 month ago, and it is a pain... im doing it just for me cos i got software to do it, but i will have a spare engine to measure from mid july where i will be back home, but i will start working again on that by september. Also trying to make a 3d model of a 16 valve similar to the one Bug@5 speed has on his website.

Chris

[elev8_dude]

The virtual engine doesn't have to be with software rather on paper and we can discuss the components. Just an idea to help us guys new guys.

[gonebuggy]

Well since this is about brainstorming ideas.... how about a 16 valve engine, with a desmodromic valvetrain?

in case you are unfamilier:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmodromic_valve

or maybe solenoid operated valves?
http://rbowes1.11net.com/dbowes/index.htm

get those ideas flowing!


Alex

[MrSelfDestruct]

Originally Posted by gonebuggy

Well since this is about brainstorming ideas.... how about a 16 valve engine, with a desmodromic valvetrain?

in case you are unfamilier:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmodromic_valve

or maybe solenoid operated valves?
http://rbowes1.11net.com/dbowes/index.htm

get those ideas flowing!


Alex

That desmodromic is a sweeeet idea!
How about that variable valve lift system Honda used (still does?) in those civics and cr-x's? Apparently (correct me if I'm wrong) when the engine hits a certain rpm, the fulcrum point on the rocker arms changes and effectively changes the ratio of the rockers (i.e. 1.1:1 to 1.25:1 quoting bug rockers).

[DrFrankenstyle]

Also jumping into the thread

From my clubmates I get any number of ideas and opinions about engine power. But good solutions for getting that power into actual SPEED are fewer... My stock engined, 15-inch rimmed w/ 195/60 tires, T1-69 revvs like crazy at 110 kph... If I had a 100 HP instead of my current 55, I don't think my actual speed would increase, I would only have to rev even more??

I have also heard NOT to experiment with ACVW transmissions without really knowing what you're doing. I don't.

So, more HP into actual street speed... How?

[Wally]

@eleV8-dude: you forgot aerodynamics. imho one of the most important factors in reaching higher speed.

Originally Posted by speedy

http://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=333873

well if you want to spend serious money and only go in a straight line read the thread above
cheers jon

No, that won't get you at high speed on the Autobahn: it'll probably melt before you even reach the highway...
It needs to be something that will stay alive for a little longer than 10 seconds or 402 meters
and have a 'VW' stamp on the engine case as well, otherwise you could just Suby or V8 the thing and be done with it..

[Veedub]

how bout a high reving 1641cc? thats what I want, something that will be reliable but run 6-7k no prob, not that Id rev it that high though, but just tfor bragging rights to say it can rev that high

[Pillow]

VeeDub, that can totally be done. You just need the right cam and valvetrain to pull it off... Granted for the money you might as well build a bigger engine at the same time.

Aerodynamics, yes. Granted I am really at a blank on what can help a Beetle much?

Lighter weight, yes. The Lexan windows are a cheap way to loose some weight.

As for motor work = Turbo. more torque and power from the same size engine. Fuel injection as well to help maker the engine efficient.

Gears perhaps?

[elev8_dude]

Thanks interesting, never thought about the glass.

I know that there are also several topic on aerodynamic, but nothing much can really be done. (correct if I'm wrong.

[chug_A_bug]

hey guys juust jumping in on this one :righton:
but I know if you Shave the door handles and rain Gutters and anything else to make less Drag that would help and add A Kamei Front Spoiler that helps alot.
Lower the bug Closer you can get it to the Ground the better without rubbing


just a thought

Chris.