GermanLook Forums  

Go Back   GermanLook Forums > Technical Section > Suspension

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old January 26th 2012, 20:42
randyj randyj is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 90
Alex,

Have you already made a set of those? I thought that I had seen those before but could not find the post. I guess you cant use the uni-ball system and still retain the torsion bar. I would like to keep mine and just have some helper coilovers like they use on the 944.

Randy
__________________
Unix is a "user friendly" operating system. Its just a little particular who it is friendly to.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old January 27th 2012, 04:18
-Alex- -Alex- is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Finland
Posts: 278
Sorry, i havent made these yet. Having hard time to find strong M20 uniball here in finland, Fluro or Hirschmann i would prefer. Each cost about 60-75 euros each, yikes!


Also found that SKF makes these too, should be strong enough, static 51KN and dynamic 31KN. Our use is 80-90% static.

http://www.skf.com/skf/productcatalo...odid=208400017
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old February 3rd 2012, 05:43
-Alex- -Alex- is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Finland
Posts: 278



More info about my design and its strength. Small bolt holes are 10,5mm and bolt holding uniball is 20, so there is very little "slop". Actually there is M20 thread on the inner part.

I did few strenght tests with solidworks simulation tool, using 6082 T6 material.

I have chosen Hirschmann M20 joint, which can stand 4500kg static load and 9000kg dynamic load.


Small bolt holes were used to "fix" the part and "force" from uniball bolt hole. Force is 2000kg per on 20mm hole, force direction to the back.

Inner part factor of safety is 3,5 and outer part factor of safety is over 5. Putting these two parts together should make a strong housing for uniball joint.




Last edited by -Alex-; February 3rd 2012 at 16:14.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old February 4th 2012, 10:50
beetle1303 beetle1303 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Athens Greece
Posts: 303
Hey Alex,nice model... I'm using SolidWorks as well (10 years know).
I would like to see the stress and strain charts, max values etc and deformation as well...
What factor of safety are you using?
Do you need some calculations for input forces suspension dynamics, braking etc?? if so pm me

Chris
__________________
Aircooled 4ever

1973 1303 going towards GL
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old February 4th 2012, 12:55
-Alex- -Alex- is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Finland
Posts: 278
Hello, i have been using solidworks about 6 years. I found few litlle weak spots from the bracket, so i redesigned it.








I am not using any preferred factor of safety, but bigger i get, better it will be. All tests have been done with 20000N=2000kg force. I tried also different directions the with same force on these uniball housings per part, i am getting 2 or higher factor of safety

I could try get the stress, strain and deformation charts. Bracket will be made still from S355 steel, but i would prefer Optim 500 highstrength steel, which also you can get up to 60mm thicknesses, the best material would be 7075 aluminum, but it would rise the price of this kit.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 12 (0 members and 12 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:27.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© www.GermanLook.net 2002-2017. All Rights Reserved