Porsche O.E. Wheel Discussion

[Wally]

Originally Posted by Steve C

Hi Wally

Would they fit on the front of a 944 setup?

No, the bolt spacing of the rear of a 944 (all models) is 94mm IIRC and front 944 is 76mm bolt spacing. Also to remember they are for a 24mm disk; not many front disks are 24mm but you could make s/th work I' am sure.

So your running 48 mm front callipers are you running the stock M/C?

Steve

Yes, with the stock front solid disk. Very hard/high pedal. Really pulls it to the ground on all 4 corners simultaneously. Its an amazing sensation as the car doesn't dive anymore under braking because of that. I do encounter the rear to lock up first in some extreme situaties, which isn't good, so I want to install something porsche/brembo in the front as well one of these days. A bigger disk will probably avoid fade and bite a bit harder/longer so balance will be a tad less agressive. Though I really like how it brakes now, even with the knowledge it could/will lock up in the rear in the end.. I know I' am weird/suicidal

[evilC]

Originally Posted by Wally

................... Though I really like how it brakes now, even with the knowledge it could/will lock up in the rear in the end.. I know I' am weird/suicidal

Wally, why not just add a bias valve to the rear line or a balance bar m/c's that would retain all you have achieved and allow you to dial in the correct bias?

evilC

[Wally]

That was my second thought Steve
Its just that I have noticed that when fully loaded with family and luggage (i.e. dog) and traveling at speed, braking to a full stop does suffer, which is mainly due to the front brakes (they look just like the orginal cast iron ones, but are only one size bigger) with the non-vented disk.
Therefore I still hope to come up with a solution to mount a nice alu Brembo to the front. Problem there is the spindle, its different from a type 1 so a 944 adapter bearing is maybe not possible...but let me worry 'bout that for a while

[evilC]

Wally,

Why not fit the 944 struts c/w discs, the early ones are a straight replacement and even have the speedo cable hole?

evilC

[flat]

Originally Posted by Wally

...its different from a type 1 so a 944 adapter bearing is maybe not possible...but let me worry 'bout that for a while

Wally, they are the same bearings as BJ/SB. I'd like to come up with something if you're up for it? Probably could do a 996 bolt on kit....

Lanner

[Wally]

Originally Posted by flat

Wally, they are the same bearings as BJ/SB. I'd like to come up with something if you're up for it? Probably could do a 996 bolt on kit....

Lanner

Yes the wheel bearings are the same, but they are wider apart on a 412 than on a bug (any year).... I have the adapter parts to press in, but I am not sure the bearing houses would have enough material left in the 944 hub to reside in...

Lanner, if you could make me something, I would definately be up for it, spindle/hub wise or caster adjustment
You know the top strut bearings are the same in my 412 as in my late 1303 beetle and I need the extra caster on both. So an adjustable caster top bearing plate is still on top of my list. Caster I have now is between 1 and 2 degrees and needs to to 6-8 or so for optimum straight line high speed stability. I already have the Topline caster+ sway-bar bushings, but its not enough. Mayby because of my M030 front spindles but I dunno.

Untill I have some top strut caster-adjustment parts, I don't dare go any faster than 120 mph or so....
The lowered 412 has the same problem. So two sets of these could make this all a happy world

Well, you can't blame a guy for trying right? (I know you have other engagements )

Thanks,
Walter

[flat]

Originally Posted by Wally

Well, you can't blame a guy for trying right?

Wally,

No worries, I'm on the project. But I'm in the process of moving and then off for almost a month. So it'll be into the new year before I have anything concrete to show. Also, not sure if I can get that much adjustment out of them. Will have to get out the slide rule and figure it out :-P. Are your cars sleeping for the winter?

In the interim, I could probably come up with a static upper mount with spherical bearing. No adjustment, but fixed at a certain positive caster. Quick, dirty (and probably cheap). You can guinea pig them for me

Lanner

[Wally]

Originally Posted by flat

Wally,

No worries, I'm on the project.

Excellent! tnx for confirming

But I'm in the process of moving and then off for almost a month. So it'll be into the new year before I have anything concrete to show. Also, not sure if I can get that much adjustment out of them. Will have to get out the slide rule and figure it out :-P.

If more movement is neccesary for them to work (increase caster by say at least 5 degrees or so), I would not mind filing out the upper strut openings in the body.

Are your cars sleeping for the winter?

The 1303 is, as I always seem to come up with new plans that require engine and trans to be removed from the 03... but the 412 is my daily driver.

In the interim, I could probably come up with a static upper mount with spherical bearing. No adjustment, but fixed at a certain positive caster. Quick, dirty (and probably cheap). You can guinea pig them for me

Lanner

That would be a very good idea! I could do that easily in a weekend and have the car realigned with the extra caster afterwards.
Cool! if you could make that happen, pls do so. The details we can discuss by PM or mail

Tnx in advance Lanner!
Walter

[ferfre007]

increible!!!! todoss!!! hermosos!!!

[vdubfund]

Heres my 1964 short SA bug
Test fit of 16 x7 fuchs , fat 205/55/16 rubber, and Porsche 944 hubs. FITS!!! just , Big of rubbing . A non euro tire would probably help too. Not as wide.

[KaferChris]

987 Boxsters 2.7L wheels 17x8 & 6.5
235/45 & 195/45

Stock late IRS rear, 1-1/4" CCC fenders, 924S brakes w/factory ~19mm spacers

Stock 'Ghia beam with adjusters on front, stock fenders, ~17mm spacers

[KaferChris]

Originally Posted by KaferChris

987 Boxsters 2.7L wheels 17x8 & 6.5
235/45 & 195/45

I'm now looking into these for my girl's 1303 that has stock fenders all the way around - anyone try 17x8 (ET40) with 215/40's on back? Lowered one inner spline.

[flat]

Here's a 56 bus I did last summer. 7 and 8" 16 dials. 4" beam with stock micartas turned down for scratch built beam, 4.85" non-flipped hybrid dropped spindles, boxster brakes, straight axle (short) with Wagenswest offset plates. Rear required 5/8 " spacers.

[flat]

Here's a 59 bug I did last summer. I built a 4" narrowed LP beam (with shocks), Porsche 944NA disks all around etc, dropped drum spindles, short axle, 15x7 et52 wheels, stock 944 22mm rear spacers with studs.

[flat]

Porsche wheels the easy way: 1" adapters. Stock suspension on 14x5.5s